Comments on: Joel on software has lost all my respect. http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/ blog for blog's sake Thu, 19 Aug 2010 16:59:08 -0500 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Asbjørn Ulsberg http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-1359 Asbjørn Ulsberg Mon, 31 Mar 2008 10:29:48 +0000 http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/#comment-1359 Indeed, Microsoft is walking a line of negative width and it is painted into a corner. But it created the line in the first place and it has been painting the floor since 1996, so I don't really feel any sympathy when they're now complaining, throwing their hands in the air and shouting "Don't break the web!". They created the problem in the first place, so why the heck shouldn't they fix it? Indeed, Microsoft is walking a line of negative width and it is painted into a corner. But it created the line in the first place and it has been painting the floor since 1996, so I don’t really feel any sympathy when they’re now complaining, throwing their hands in the air and shouting “Don’t break the web!”. They created the problem in the first place, so why the heck shouldn’t they fix it?

]]> By: grid http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-1338 grid Sat, 22 Mar 2008 09:56:15 +0000 http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/#comment-1338 @Robby I didn't immediately see how to add comments on your site, but check out my latest blog post on <a href="http://livingtech.net/2008/03/22/why-postels-law-is-awesome/" rel="nofollow">Why Postel’s Law is awesome</a>. For the record, I totally disagree with Joel's premise that IE doesn't have a line to walk. He thinks its all black and white. All standards or no. But for a giant company like M$, it's got to be all about risk management. What percentage of the people can they make happy when they release IE8? Are they aiming to please web developers, or browser consumers? Ha! of course the answer is both, and how is that not walking a line? The one thing I do agree with in Joel's article is that IE8 will not ship with a standards-only-mode enabled by default. (On the other hand, I also don't believe it will actually be standards compliant, although I'm sure the acid test will look great.) I just don't think they're that dumb, but hey, they did release Vista, so what do I know? @Robby I didn’t immediately see how to add comments on your site, but check out my latest blog post on Why Postel’s Law is awesome.

For the record, I totally disagree with Joel’s premise that IE doesn’t have a line to walk. He thinks its all black and white. All standards or no. But for a giant company like M$, it’s got to be all about risk management. What percentage of the people can they make happy when they release IE8? Are they aiming to please web developers, or browser consumers? Ha! of course the answer is both, and how is that not walking a line?

The one thing I do agree with in Joel’s article is that IE8 will not ship with a standards-only-mode enabled by default. (On the other hand, I also don’t believe it will actually be standards compliant, although I’m sure the acid test will look great.) I just don’t think they’re that dumb, but hey, they did release Vista, so what do I know?

]]> By: Robby Slaughter http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-1337 Robby Slaughter Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:17:09 +0000 http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/#comment-1337 Joel's argument is a little shaky and his analogies are poor, but there is truth to the claim that IE8 is trying to walk a non-existent line. I think I summarized the issues much better here, and would love your feedback: http://www.robbyslaughter.com/blog/?2008-03-21 Joel’s argument is a little shaky and his analogies are poor, but there is truth to the claim that IE8 is trying to walk a non-existent line. I think I summarized the issues much better here, and would love your feedback:

http://www.robbyslaughter.com/blog/?2008-03-21

]]> By: Giacomo http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/comment-page-1/#comment-1334 Giacomo Wed, 19 Mar 2008 16:10:10 +0000 http://livingtech.net/2008/03/17/joel-on-software-has-lost-all-my-respect/#comment-1334 Joel is playing the adsense/slashdot game, like he routinely does when he needs to pimp his blog (usually, before an advertising push for his new products). Joel is playing the adsense/slashdot game, like he routinely does when he needs to pimp his blog (usually, before an advertising push for his new products).

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